News Roundup: July update

     

    The best laid schemes o' mice an' men...

    ...gang aft agley.* We had to cancel our trip to Arlington Fly-In at the last moment this year, so we'll miss seeing you there. A number of problems, both "foreign and domestic" (as they say) conspired to keep us at home. I'll spare you the entire litany. Suffice to say that we're still open for business, alive and well, and keeping busy. Stay tuned.

    *Robert Burns (or, in the King's English, "often go awry.") Ain't it the truth?

     

     

     

 

We’re getting ready for the Arlington Fly-In in early July.  This year we’ll be near the Quality Sport Planes (Zenith) booth over by the flight line, and look forward to visiting with old friends and making new ones.  Should have a couple of 601’s with complete engines on display, as well as a variety of MagVair engine components for sale.

 

    Mike O’Neal’s engine is coming along nicely.  I think this engine is going to be something special, with its 3 1/8“ stroked 4340 crankshaft, MagVair 92mm forged pistons with 4340 custom con rods, and aluminum nikasil cylinders, electronic fuel injection and DIS ignition. Our preliminary computer simulations suggest this engine will produce substantially more than 120 HP. We will post the dyno results as soon as they're available.


    Back in February we acquired an unfinished CH-601XL from a previous builder who had to let it go.  We have finished the fuselage upgrades, are putting some final touches on the fuel and ignition systems, and hope to have her on display at Arlington. 

She’ll be sporting our prototype MagVair engine: 2.8 liter, 3” stroke 4340 billet crank, .060" over MagVair forged pistons, aluminum/nikasil cylinders, MagVair 4340 connecting rods, electronic fuel injection, and EDIS ignition. And of course all of the carbon fiber accessories. 

Cranshaft Recall Status

We completed the crankshaft recall and are pleased that close examination of all our 4340 cranks showed no further defects.  Other concerns with our manufacturer (customer service and lengthy delays) have led us to find another qualified source.  We are in final negotiations with another firm and expect to have this product back online in a few weeks.  We regret the further delay, but it looks like our new source will give us a better product and be easier to work with.  Stay tuned.

   
June Updates:

We just ran Bill Cribb's engine on our newly finished test stand. Bill's build essentially follows William Wynne's standard conversion. Photo shows the beast making a LOT of noise and almost pulling my Jeep across the parking lot. We're hping to give the test stand a good workout this year on several MagVair engine builds underway and planned.

 

 

 

About the CH-601 Upgrades...


I just got back from a week at First Light Aviation Group in Livermore, California with Rick Lindstrom & Rich Vetterli. I went down to help them with the Upgrades on their Corvair powered CH601's. We had a great time and made excellent progress on both airplanes. Rick Lindstrom will bring his airplane up to our booth at the Arlington Fly-in this year July 7th- 11th, so feel free to stop by and see his bird and talk to us about the upgrades. For those of you who may be looking for help with the 601 upgrades, please feel free to contact me.

 

 

 

I think it might be helpful to share some of what I have learned in the process of doing the 601 upgrades for those of you who are gearing up to tackle the job (or are already under way. Please be advised that this is free advice and comes with a money back guarantee and is worth exactly what you paid for it. Some of this information might not be applicable to your specific situation, so disregard anything that doesn't apply.
Final caveat: My opinion is by no means the last word in aircraft repair! I hope this helps.

First, let's drill out some rivets!

Most of us have had to drill out an Avex rivet now and then during our build and most of us are fairly proficient at this. But I have found some neat tricks that make this much easier and minimize enlarging the hole. One cool trick is to punch the steel mandrel down a bit with an automatic center punch. This lowers the mandrel so it doesn't deflect the drill bit. It doesn't take much and drilling the head off is a snap. Once the head is removed the pieces will separate and either the tail will fall out or it will need to be pulled off later. I use a pair of snips that I have ground flush and this works fairly well.

I heard of another trick just today that is certainly worth trying, and that is to modify your automatic center punch in to a drift punch by grinding the tip into a long straight punch rather than its original tapered shape. Then with a couple of whacks the mandrel is completely punched out. This will make drilling out the Avex even easier and will produce a clean hole much more reliably. Wish I could give credit to whoever thought of this first (it's not my idea) but it came to me anonymously from a friend who saw it on the internet. :) But I thought it was worth mentioning.

 

OK, once the wing skins are removed we get to tackle what most people sweat the most over: Removing SOLID RIVETS.

This isn't really all that difficult and I have found a few tricks that make it quite simple. I first thought of this all on my own, only to find that I wasn't the fist to think of it and then found out later that not only has it been done this way before but this is the way it has been done probably longer than I have been alive! (If I only had a dime for every time this has happened to me.....Well, so much for the process patent! :) The real keys to this process are patience & precision: First, center punch the head of the rivet (they already have a dimple in the center so this is easy). Next, drill out the body of the rivet with a #20 drill bit leaving the shop head (bucktail) intact. (don't drill all the way through it!). The head of the rivet will stay on for now. Next comes the (not so) top secret weapon.

This is simply an air hammer punch that has been ground down into a drift punch that is slightly smaller than the # 20 drill bit. Now with a C Clamp holding the pieces together or a bucking bar to support the part, use the air hammer drift punch and drive out the rivet. First the head will pop off and this stays on our punch as a cushion to help protect the part from the punch bottoming out. The rivet should easily come out, if not literally shoot across the shop. Be careful and gentle so as not to damage the parts, if the rivet doesn't come right out, just drill a little deeper. Drilling through the center of the rivet's body relieves the stress in it and allows it to come out easily. I have done this successfully from the manufactured head and from the shop head so either way works well.

 

 

Next, I would like to address a few things I have read on some of the lists:



1. Heat treating your rivets at home: This is a very bad idea & totally unnecessary, and here's why:
Modifying the heat treatment of any fastener in any way changes its mechanical properties and can easily render it useless for its intended purpose. Heat treating is a complicated process that requires extremely accurate temperature control and your home oven is not even close.

In addition to accurately controlling the heating process, the quenching or cooling process must be a controlled environment also. Heat treatment also requires very accurate equipment to VERIFY the results. Unless you have followed the exact process on 100s of rivets and have paid a metallurgist to test your results to verify you have accomplished a specific goal consistently as well as(and more importantly) the results after setting the rivet, you have no way of being sure you have a safe assembly.

I have successfully set rivets from Zenith, Aircraft spruce as well as other vendors, without any noticeable difference. Practice makes perfect, and a true craftsman never blames his tools (or fasteners). Replacement rivets are cheap, there is no need to risk inaccurate heat treating. If you are having trouble seek the help of someone who has been successful at it. (like a professional).

The rivets we are using are AD rivets and are made from 2117 aluminum alloy.
They are marked with a dimple in the center of the manufactured head.


This alloy does not get harder over time when stored at room temperature!

If you put them in your oven and heat them up, you have changed their mechanical properties and they are useless!

Remember: THIS IS YOUR WING SPAR.
And I quote: FAA AC 43.13-2B Acceptable Methods, Techniques & Practice
Page 4-19
"The 2117 rivets may be driven in the condition received'...

2.How to set a rivet:
There are several ways to set solid rivets successfully. Some ways are easier than others and every process has a learning curve. The rivet has no preference!

Bucking rivets: this process is not black magic. It will take some practice if you have never done it before or if you haven't done it in a while. Bucking rivets is a tactile thing, you can feel and hear when the rivet is finished. But until you develop the "feel" for it you will have to do it incrementally and measure the rivet's progress. This is easily done with a tool called a shop head rivet gauge.

The shop head gauge has two ends to it; one end is the optimum set height and the other is the optimum set diameter. When the rivet is set properly the shop head will either fit snugly in the hole or will not go in. But it must also be taller than or equal to the height gauge end. Each rivet diameter size has its own gauge.

Another important consideration is to make sure the rivet protrudes far enough beyond the grip length. If it doesn't, you will never get a properly set rivet. I have scribed a line into the anodized finish on each of my rivet gauges to show me how far the rivet should protrude, and it's easy to check this dimension before setting. (Having this measurement scribed onto the Height gauge means I have one less tool to lose this way.) Once you are sure you have enough rivet protruding, the shop head gauge will tell you when you have set it to the optimal dimension. Luckily the fine people at Zenith have provided us with the proper size and length rivets which makes this job a lot easier.

 

Rivet height guages scribed to show proper protrusion depth.

 

Bucking, continued...

The idea is to set the rivet with as few hits as possible, because overworking the rivet will over harden it. And as the rivet's diameter increases, the force required to set it increases, so you will need a gun that will at least set a 3/16" diameter rivet.

There has been a lot of discussion about this as well as the necessary weight of the bucking bar. I have successfully bucked 3/16" diameter rivets with a 3X gun and a standard bucking bar, however. I prefer a 4X gun and my favorite bucking bar is a piece of polished mild steel measuring 1" x 2 'x 3", which weighs in at 2.5 lbs. My second favorite bucking bar is actually the remnant from my welding certification test. The heavier the bucking bar the faster your arm gets tired, and the lighter the bucking bar the faster your hand gets numb from the vibrations. so find what's comfortable for you.

 

Brady's bucking bars.

 

NOTE: Long term exposure to low frequency vibration caused by riveting may be harmful to your hands and arms. I suggest you take frequent breaks when riveting to reduce this exposure.

 

   

Squeezers (No bucking around!) This is by far my favorite way to set solid rivets; it's quiet, precise, fast, consistent and way more fun.

Pneumatic Squeezers come in 2 types; the "C Squeezer" and the "alligator squeezer". These tools are very expensive but are well worth the money if you are doing a lot of this work. The squeezers I have both produce 6000 lbs of force, so a 3/16" rivet doesn't have a chance! The cool thing about the squeezer is that once you have it set you can squeeze your rivets perfectly every time and very quickly. I use the shop head tool to set up the squeezer by squeezing a rivet and then measuring it. If it isn't squeezed far enough you just add a spacer under the set and try again. Once you get it adjusted the rest is gravy.

The disadvantage is (like most production tools) you have to set it up specifically for the length of the finished rivet. So, when you change from doing your spar rivets to doing your center section rivets you have to readjust the squeezer. However, this doesn't take that long and is well worth the time because of the consistent results you can achieve. There are also hand squeezers on the market that will squeeze a 3/16" diameter rivet. You will need to order a special 5" yolk to get around the spar extrusion.

Squeezing the rivets is how Zenith originally set the rivets in your spars and center section, because this method is much faster and more accurate. Remember they are in a production setting and must be able to set the rivets exactly the same every time to achieve their quality standards.

Does this mean you have to squeeze your rivets? No, but it is a lot easier, faster, and more accurate than bucking.

I hope this has been helpful.

December 2009 - Corvair Community College


  Our sincere thanks go to everyone who came to our first Corvair Community College December 26th and 27th, 2009.  The turnout was great—I counted 22 enthusiastic folks—and... (more)


September 2009 - Steve Makish photos

Our friend Steve Makish recently completed his new Corvair engine for his KR-2. Steve's a great guy and we're very happy to have been a part of his project. Says Mr. Makish:

"Here are some shots of my first 30 minute run today at 2000 rpm. My oil pressure is 20 at idle and about 30 at WOT. Temps are great and oil temp was 180-195. I will do some more runs tomorrow. By the way this is with WW's new oil setup and the pressure is taken right where it enters the engine galleys."

Steve's running our crankshaft, rods, and pistons in his engine, as well as several William Wynne parts. Congratulations Steve - we wish you many happy hours in the air!


  

  
 
    


  
  
  

July 2009 - Report from the Arlington Fly-In

This was our second appearance at the Arlington Fly-In, and as we packed up to come home I realized how far we’ve come since our first one.  Last year we introduced our new 4340 crankshaft: the new pistons were still in the early stages of production, and the con rods were still on the drawing table.  The rear alternator & rear starter design was still in the prototype stage.  The aluminum/nikasil cylinders were merely an idea.

This year we had all these products on display, along with our latest engine: with a complete new rotating assembly, aluminum cylinders, new intake design, and (ahem!) weighing in at just under 180 lbs.  We’ll be running the engine soon and I’ll let you know the test results.


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Woody Harris and I shared the podium for two forums on Corvair conversions, and we had around 30 people altogether.  Looks like we will have a good number of  Corvair builders in the near future…all of William’s FlyCorvair manuals that Woody brought along quickly sold out!  After the forums, a lot of folks went over to check out Woody’s Corvair-powered Zenith 601 and dropped by to get a look at the new MagVair parts.

In addition to potential builders, we also made some good contacts with suppliers.  As you may know, our light-weight composite products (valve covers, oil pan, top cover) got derailed late last year when our supplier let us down in a big way.  I’m hopeful that we’ll soon be back on track with one of the vendors we met at Arlington this year.  I’ll give you more information on that development as it happens.
 
All in all, it was a great get-together, and I enjoyed meeting those of you who dropped by our booth.  If you didn’t make it to Arlington this year, I hope you’ll consider it next year: great air shows, lots of vintage war birds, and lots of home-built planes.

 
     
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